Curse

Jegred2 · Jan 17, 2007, 08:32 PM // 20:32

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Originally Posted by Leighwyn

I've gotten my survivor up to 1,309,000 experience mostly through skill capping, and am so nervous about dying now that I don't even want to play her anymore

The closest call I've ever had was an ele dragon boss in Archipelagos who found the need to gale -> AS me to around 60 health o_0

lol thats nothing, my warrior had just finishing killing a boss and I came out with 4 health after the degen stopped, was about to bail and hope to god I didn't die before I mapped. BTW, I only do pug groups for missions, all the rest is henches and heroes.

cellardweller · Jan 17, 2007, 11:04 PM // 23:04

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Originally Posted by Burst Cancel

There is no way that anyone actually serious about getting survivor would take a PuG. I got Legendary Survivor on three different characters before Nightfall came out, and even without heroes it was much safer to go with henchmen than with other players.

QFT. I don't even let my guildies near my survivor toons. Henchmen are the only way to go.

The leechers that people complain about and assume are survivor wannabes are just ordinary leechers.

SamGad · Jan 18, 2007, 12:03 AM // 00:03

I finished survivor one on my mon just before the capping weekend.
Decided that i needed to get to droks for ease of capping and had a guildee run me around all the desert missions.
Cue me tabbing out to switch music on the last mission, tabbing in 3 minutes later to see a hydra on the oddest patrol path right past the zone entrance, and my monk in a deep crater.
Followed swiftly by me getting thoroughly annoyed.
I mean seriously... I'd sat and watched everything up to then, and even for a good few minutes... but then, music swap. boom! *cries*

Neo Nugget · Jan 18, 2007, 12:40 AM // 00:40

i made an earth ele and im gonna try survivor. if i die its no big deal because i have the skillz title already and thats just awseome and im perfectly content with it.

lol

The Last Cruzader · Jan 18, 2007, 12:51 AM // 00:51

I deleted my ele survivior earlier because, I hated him (I wasstupid enough to buy 15k hydromancers lol) Then I made a rit survivior and got killed by a mob that was no where near me at lvl 17.

Maximumraver · Jan 18, 2007, 06:18 AM // 06:18

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Originally Posted by Jegred2

lol thats nothing, my warrior had just finishing killing a boss and I came out with 4 health after the degen stopped, was about to bail and hope to god I didn't die before I mapped. BTW, I only do pug groups for missions, all the rest is henches and heroes.

With my mesmer (@ 509,xxx exp.) i was doing a quest in factions (Kaineng/City Area), just fighting the last mob, had 85% health left so no problem... and.... BOOM! Lightning Hammer, i look at my hp....1 left O.o uh-oh, but luckily mhenlo healed me about 5 secs later (couldnt do that myself, ether feast was recharging :\) so i survived without mapping to somewhere else :P

Res Ipsi · Jan 18, 2007, 02:48 PM // 14:48

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Originally Posted by Maximumraver

With my mesmer (@ 509,xxx exp.) i was doing a quest in factions (Kaineng/City Area), just fighting the last mob, had 85% health left so no problem... and.... BOOM! Lightning Hammer, i look at my hp....1 left O.o uh-oh, but luckily mhenlo healed me about 5 secs later (couldnt do that myself, ether feast was recharging :\) so i survived without mapping to somewhere else :P

Good thing you had Mhenlo with you. Had it been Alesia*, gg.

*Which is probably why ANet left Alesia in Tyria. Worst.Monk.Ever.

Ravenwing · Jan 18, 2007, 04:57 PM // 16:57

Why does everyone say that Alesia is useless, she helped my ranger get Legendary Survivor in the crystal desert.

The poor girl even sacrificed her own life to stop me from dying at one point.

Shmanka · Jan 18, 2007, 06:53 PM // 18:53

I have survivor one on 3 characters. Although I want to get legendary for my elementalist, I can't stand that I lost 2 of my survivor titles by mapping. The third one was spiked from an ele boss :S Just had it coming.

Question: Does Vizunah Square (local/foreign) cutscene add to death count?

Arwen Evenstar · Jan 18, 2007, 07:47 PM // 19:47

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Originally Posted by Shmanka

I have survivor one on 3 characters. Although I want to get legendary for my elementalist, I can't stand that I lost 2 of my survivor titles by mapping. The third one was spiked from an ele boss :S Just had it coming.

Question: Does Vizunah Square (local/foreign) cutscene add to death count?

Getting to Survivor (1) has gotten easy for me after playing.. at least in the Factions campaign. I have done this by picking up all the quests I can. By the time I am in Kaineng Center, I am about level 18. Then doing their quests, the xp just comes faster and 20 is right around the corner. I made it close to the end of the game clearly at almost 500,000xp and fell into trouble with the internet. Horribly, I died with lag.. and I was pretty upset.. to die... not because I was not careful enough but because of my computer or internet connection. It was when you don't look like you are getting hit by attacks, but you ARE actually getting hit.

My story does end with a good note though. I'm using that character in PvP now and I am having fun. I have made it to Shiro, and I beat him without the fear of dying. I seriously don't know how you can live a battle with Shiro without having a group of people that know what they are doing. So now I started a new character, got Survivor (1) again, slowly working to 2nd at 468,000 xp past Boreas Seabed. That double xp elite capping weekend helped a lot.

I feel there is nothing wrong with any level of Survivor. I just don't like those who think they can sport the Legendary Survivor when they acheived it by doing Kurzick Lutz Fast Faction Farming as a doorman and when they actually play the game, show no skill at all. I know this, as one person who I helped "survived" even quit our guild to pursue the title. My guild is Luxon.. and he told me there is no Luxon side equivalent easy faction farming like KLFFF. He then pursuaded to convince our guild leader to even change alliance... lol He ended up leaving the guild and joined a Kurzick guild to do Lutz runs. Kinda sucks when someone takes advantage of your help and then just leaves.

*To answer your question, I read somewhere that they fixed the Vizunah Square Mission cutscene, but don't quote me on that.

What you can do is, if you have finished the mission alone, just click on the "Skip" button to end the cinema. If you were with a party and they want to watch it, just 'x' out if you think there is a chance you might die. Especially if there is a minion master necromancer in your party, there is a chance the minions go crazy in that time.

Res Ipsi · Jan 18, 2007, 10:55 PM // 22:55

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Originally Posted by Ravenwing

Why does everyone say that Alesia is useless, she helped my ranger get Legendary Survivor in the crystal desert.

The poor girl even sacrificed her own life to stop me from dying at one point.

She's obviously partial to Rangers

Spectral Agony · Jan 18, 2007, 11:51 PM // 23:51

I'm going for survivor on a dervish right now and have decided to never pug or play that toon with any humans until I get legendary. There's just too many ways that others can screw you up.

One that comes to mind is the cinematic in the Iron Mines mission. Luckily I wasn't going for any titles, but some of us were still fighting near the mouth of the cave when our fearless would-be Wammo runner forged on to the seer. During the cinematic we continued to be attacked by the azure shadows and someone died because not everyone skipped the video.

So...I'm guessing people who try to leech their way to survivor generally don't make it.

Blame the Monks · Jan 19, 2007, 02:57 AM // 02:57

I earned Legendary Survivor on my warrior. Like most others, I earned most of the exp from capping skills (~150) and completeing all quests, skills, and bonuses in all chapters. That put me at 4/5 for KoaBD, so I also mapped cantha 100% while earning my survivor. TBH, it was much easier than I expected -- the hardest thing by far was just not making mistakes or getting overconfident. Spikes in PvE are rare -- almost all deaths come from the player doing something dumb (aggroing too much and not running, getting trapped in a bad spot against an ele boss, etc). Just keep trying and be patient -- it is very doable.

My first death came just after the title. I sold my first death to a guildmate for $20k -- he shot me with a catapult in a gvg.

ozsparrow · Jan 19, 2007, 05:46 AM // 05:46

Forgive me for cutting this response from "another" fansite but here goes:

So, once again we have the "leech" topic subtely raised via another thread title!

I am constantly amazed at the number of PUGs I get into which, at the slightest sight of "trouble", have map-outs or resigns or leaves from so-called "survivors". What about us poor suckers left to "fight the fight" to achieve the mission goals (which, surprise, surprise, always seem to fail given the lack of members!)

The other thing that really bugs me is "so-called survivors" CONSTANTLY sitting well outside aggro range and "pulling" experience from the group and then being seen to have effectively "participated" in the mission!

I would personally love to BAN the title! To me, they make a mockery of the "co-operative" nature of PUGs.

Or, at the very least people, have the common decency to notify your fellow team members that you are trying for Survivor BEFORE starting the mission so that others can possibly accomodate any sudden "connection" problems you may encounter during the mission!

End of rant!

Stupid Shizno · Jan 19, 2007, 06:09 AM // 06:09

ok, ask them before mission, if you feell they are going to ragequit take a hench or another player.

stop ranting

ozsparrow · Jan 19, 2007, 06:17 AM // 06:17

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Originally Posted by Stupid Shizno

ok, ask them before mission, if you feell they are going to ragequit take a hench or another player.

stop ranting

What, so everyone in a PUG should be individually interrogated before a mission as to what myriad of titles they are pursuing? Cartographer? Survivor? Etc Etc Give me a break!

It is damn hard enough to efficiently form a PUG with appropriate skill sets and experience and player mix without individually having to ask every single participant whether their focus will be on CO-OPERATIVELY completing the mission goals for the good of the ENTIRE team instead of selfishly looking after their own skin!

If you participate in a team, your focus should ALWAYS be on the team outcomes and not your own!

Ban the title, or stay out of PUGs or own up before starting the mission if you are "title searching", IMHO!

Blame the Monks · Jan 19, 2007, 06:58 AM // 06:58

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Originally Posted by ozsparrow

Forgive me for cutting this response from "another" fansite but here goes:

So, once again we have the "leech" topic subtely raised via another thread title!

I am constantly amazed at the number of PUGs I get into which, at the slightest sight of "trouble", have map-outs or resigns or leaves from so-called "survivors". What about us poor suckers left to "fight the fight" to achieve the mission goals (which, surprise, surprise, always seem to fail given the lack of members!)

The other thing that really bugs me is "so-called survivors" CONSTANTLY sitting well outside aggro range and "pulling" experience from the group and then being seen to have effectively "participated" in the mission!

I would personally love to BAN the title! To me, they make a mockery of the "co-operative" nature of PUGs.

Or, at the very least people, have the common decency to notify your fellow team members that you are trying for Survivor BEFORE starting the mission so that others can possibly accomodate any sudden "connection" problems you may encounter during the mission!

End of rant!

I've never seen a survivor pug. Why would I trust my life to a pug when Koss is better than you in every way?

taffette · Jan 19, 2007, 09:14 AM // 09:14

I think we've already posted this, but: the legitimate survivors are much fonder of mishing/questing with heroes/henchies than with PUGs - there's a much higher chance of dying with PUGs. I wear my title proudly and the only human players I allow near my survivor are my guildies who know exactly what they're getting into, and I don't even do that very often. You're always going to get leeches. I advise hero-ing as opposed to PUG-ing if it's really bothering you that much

Res Ipsi · Jan 19, 2007, 12:03 PM // 12:03

The only time I didn't go with only hench/hero/guildmate was when a warrior asked to complete the Sunjaing (sp?) mission with a guildmate and I, *after* it was made clear I was a survivor. He was persistent in his desire to join us anyway. Believe me, I was more nervous about the warrior doing something to compromise my title effort (I was well over 1 million at that point), than I'm sure he was of my "ragequitting". As it turned out, he was a fine warrior and we completed Master's with no problems.
No survivor intent on getting to the third tier of the title is going to risk it with a pug. Those who sneak into pugs and quit at the least sign of trouble probably never get to LS. And those who sit in the background reaping the XP of others..well, they're just lame.

Azza · Mar 05, 2007, 04:10 AM // 04:10

I Got my Legandary Survivors Title almost all with Hench and Heros, My guild help me do TT in factions and a group asked me to help in Viznuh, notified them of my LS intent, n/p only stipulation i made was Skip cinamatics in case of Minions, all good, I didnt avoid Pugs because i thought they where all bad, i used Heros and Hench because i wanted to control the enviroment i was in as much as i could which then lowers my risk of dying, that is what the title is about right? this would be almost impossible doing every thing with random Pugs, i cant imagine anyone going for LS with randoms especially if you dont tell them, you only put yourself at a greater risk and people who do obviously have no idea how to go about obtaining the title and chance are they got wacked long before they got any where near LS, i got my LS on a ranger, to me its the easiet Toon to use for the LS title and i wear it with pride, i did get down to 26 HP doing Consulate Docks, one of the very few times i forgot to alt space to target, lol, was tryn for masters, all the XP you can get helps.
I Take my hat off to "Blame The Monks" though, Legendary on a warrior, almost unheard of, Gratz, but to lable all LS title people because of a few of which you provide no proof of except "I heard" and "this guy quit" doen`t mean it is true, they could have just as easly have been disgruntled LS failures or wannabe giving genuine holders a bad rap because they can`t get it, like a few who have posted in here, its no reason to smear the many who have earn`t it the hard way